Hero adventures-3: Journey to Egypt - Day 3


  • Since early morning Mark went out of his mind with worry, waiting for news from the scouts sent around the town. To his disappointment, they didn't bring any news. It seemed as if the Huns just disappeared into thin air after the attack, and the hope to see his friend alive lowered minute by minute. Searching for a small group of riders on a boundless plain land was just a bit easier than looking for a needle in a haystack.
    The main aim of this ambush also remained a mystery. Ransom? Then why hiding? Some old grudge? But Lucius was one of those rare people who - despite his high position in the Empire - didn't have any known enemies. What is the good of an old architect worth to a nomadic tribe?
    A sudden sound distracted Mark from his uneasy thoughts.
    – Ahem… As I can see, master caravan driver, that old mine did really have the second exit, since you're standing here safe and sound, and not buried deep under the earth? – Mark immediately recognized the old gypsy who he had met once and remembered his near escape from the mountain mine. But before he decided what to do with the old fraud, she continued:
    – I offer you a deal: you help me, and I tell you who attacked the architect’s camp and how you can find them.
    Mark didn't hesitate a moment.
    – What do I need to do?
    – There is a small piece of old rug, which I would like to keep as a good memory. – the old woman cracked a sly smile. – An old waist belt with a clasp made of a river stone, nothing precious at all. It's kept in one of the three chests which belong to some cranky alchemist, who lives nearby. I recently helped him when he got lost in the forest, and for this he promised to give one true answer on one out of the 4 questions I ask. And if I guess correctly in which chest he keeps this waist belt, he'll give it to me. You help me get this belt, and in return I'll tell you the way to the camp, where the Huns keep your friend!
    - I still don't believe a single word of you, old witch. - sighed Mark. - But it seems I have no other option to save my friend than grasp at this straw.



    Task 3: What 4 questions should the witch ask the alchemist to know for sure in which chest the waist belt is? (The alchemist can only say yes or no and will give 1 true answer and 3 false ones).

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  • Is belt on first chest?
    Is belt on first or second chest?
    Is belt on first or third chest?
    Is belt on second or third chest?


    urbis, ts8

    [KZ] - Komando Zmijí

  • Can you find the belt in all cases?
    Can you find the belt in first case?
    Can you find a belt in both second ant third cases?
    Can you find a belt in first or second case?

    You know the old joke, Eiaiestyi? Man shows up at the Pearly Gates, sees this guy in a pin stripe suit, and a briefcase, a cigar, prancing about. He says to Saint Peter, 'who's that guy?' Saint Peter says 'ahhh, that's just God. Thinks he's Jofke.'

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  • Will you honestly answer the next three questions?
    Is belt in the first or second chest, but not in the third?
    Is belt in the second or third chest, but not in the first?
    Is belt in the first or third chest, but not in the second?


    (If we have two NO in last three answers, then he lied if he answered YES on first question and told the truth if he answered NO on the first question. In that case, we will know the answer trough the combination of answers NO)
    (If we have two YES in last three answers, then he lied if he answered NO on first question and told the truth if he answered YES on the first question. In that case, we will know the answer trough the combination of answers YES)


    Example to explain: Let it be the belt in third chest.
    Combinations of the answers:
    Answers on the first qustion: YES(lied) YES(told the truth) NO(lied) NO(told the truth)
    Answers on the second qustion: YES NO NO YES
    Answers on the third qustion: NO YES YES NO

    Answers on the fourth qustion:NO YES YES NO




    From every combination we can make the conclusion that the belt is in the third chest.

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  • Should ask three times if the first chest contains the belt and then should ask one time if the second chest contains the belt (if the answer to the repeated question is always yes=false the fourth true answer will reaveal where the belt is; if the answer to the repeated question will be 2 times false and one true (yes, yes no), the fourth answer (false) will reveal where the belt is, if the answer will be (no no and yes) or three times no=false the fourth answer will be irrelevant).

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    Hope you guess my name
    But what's puzzling you
    Is the nature of my game


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  • First three questions should be the same - "Is the belt located in first chest?"
    Fourth question will be "Is the belt located in second chest"?
    If first 3 answers are "No", then the belt is in first chest.
    If first 3 answers are "Yes", then fourth answer will be true and belt is in second or third chest depending if 4th answer was "Yes" or "No"
    If 2 of first 3 answers were "Yes" and one - "No", then fourth answer is a lie and the belt is in third or second chest depending if 4th answer was "Yes" or "No".
    If 1 of first 3 answers was "Yes" and two - "No" then belt is in first chest


    Jogosh, ts80.travian.com

  • 1. The waist belt is in the first chest or second chest
    2. The waist belt is in the second chest or third chest
    3. The waist belt is in the third chest or first chest
    4. The waist belt is in the first chest

  • Is the waist belt not in Chest 1?
    If I were to think of either the Chest number 1 or 2, would the number on the chest containing the belt be greater than the number I am thinking of?
    Is the waist belt in Chest 2 or 3?
    Is the waist belt in Chest 3?


    Hats off to you guys for this one, its a toughie :)

  • General Idea:
    Questions 1, 2, & 3 should be used to isolate which answers are false.
    Question 4 should be used to confirm or find out where the waist belt is.


    Questions:
    1. Is the waist belt in the first or the second chest?
    2. Is the waist belt in the first or the second chest?

    3. Is the waist belt in the first or the second chest?
    4. Is the waist belt in the first chest?


    Case 1:
    If the alchemist said "No" 2-3 times in the first 3 questions, then the waist belt will be located in the 1st or 2nd chest. The 4th question will help determine which chest has the waist belt.


    Case 1A:
    "No" 2 times = 2 false
    "Yes" 1 time = 1 true


    If the alchemist said "No"(a false) on the 4th question, then the waist belt will be located in the first chest.
    If the alchemist said "Yes"(a false) on the 4th question, then the waist belt will be located in the second chest.


    Case 1B:
    "No" 3 times = 3 false


    If the alchemist said "No"(a true) on the 4th question, then the waist belt will be located in the second chest.
    If the alchemist said "Yes"(a true) on the 4th question, then the waist belt will be located in the first chest.


    Case 2:
    If the alchemist said "Yes" 2-3 times in the first 3 questions, then the waist belt will be located in the 3rd chest. The 4th question will not be needed anymore.

  • is the waist belt in the right or left chest ?
    is the waist belt in the right or middle chest ?
    is the waist belt in the left or middle chest ?
    is the waist belt in the middle chest ?

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  • 1. Is the waist belt in chest #1?


    2. Is the waist belt in chest #1?


    3. Is the waist belt in chest #1?

    • If all 3 answers are no, it is in chest #1 because all 3 answers are lies.
    • If there are 2 "no" answers and 1 "yes" answer it's in chest #1 because the "yes" was truthful.
    • If there are 2 "yes" answers and 1 "no" answer OR if all 3 answers are "yes", it's not in chest #1 and you must ask question 4.

    4. Is the waist belt in chest #2?


    (If the answer to the first three were "yes", then you know the answer to the 4th question is truthful.)

    • So... then if the answer to question 4 is "yes" the waist belt is in chest #2. If he says "no", you know it's in chest #3.

    (If the answers to the first 3 were "yes, yes, no" then you know that the "no" answer was the truth meaning it's not in chest #1, so the answer to #4 will be a lie.)

    • Answer to question 4 is "yes" means it's in chest #3
    • Answer to question 4 is "no" means it's in chest #2.


    I'm super confused now, but that's what I'm going with...

  • 1. Question: "1 +1 = 2"?
    2. Question: Is it true, that the waist belt is in the left chest - or is it a lie?
    3. Question: Is it true, that the waist belt is in the middle chest - or is it a lie?
    4. Question: Is it true, that the waist belt is in the right chest - or is it a lie?


    The waist belt is the chest, the answer of the alchemist is "yes"

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  • Question 1: is the box containing the belt in the middle of the three boxes?


    Question 2: is there a box(or boxes) to the left of the box contatining the belt?


    Question 3: is there a box (or boxes)to the right of the box containing the belt?


    Question 4: did you lie in your answer to question 1?


    The questions must be asked in that order.

  • The answer


    The witch should ask 3 questions pointing on the same chest (let’s call it chest 1).
    Is this the chest where the waist belt is?
    Is this the chest where the waist belt is?
    Is this the chest where the waist belt is?


    And then pointing to one of the others:
    Is this the chest where the waist belt is?


    Let’s consider all possible combinations to 3 first questions.
    Yes, yes, yes = alchemist lied 3 times and the belt is one of the other 2 chests. Then the 4thanswer will be true.
    No, no, no = alchemist lied and the belt is in chest 1. 4th answer will be true.
    Yes Yes No = the next answer will be a lie since the alchemist already used the true answer.
    No No Yes = same as above (and belt is in chest



    Since there are multiple ways to answer this quest I am going to make sure I get some clarification on this one before setting the winners.


    Again I do apologize for the slowness here but still in recovery mode here at home.

  • After my lengthy delay which did not help me at all, here are our winners for day 3


    urbis_CZ = 50 gold


    alliegirl = 30 gold
    Cris@_COM = 30 gold
    niksat3_COM = 30 gold



    Winners please contact me with a pm with the .com server and nickname to receive your gold