I would like to shed some light over how the def point works and how it actually should work with reasons in this thread. Please feel free to leave suggestions/thoughts/questions here as I would like as much feedback as possible, so this reaches to the travian team, and they can go further with it. I hope i have explained it well.
How it works :
The def point works in a ridiculous way. The def points a person gains is according to the persons def troops crop consumption. As stated in travian FAQs, and tested out by my good friends in TM (they are the real ones who brought this up hehe, i just like to rant) on actual attacks in the current Closed Beta Server. So if a person has reinforced another player with 1k slaves and the total reinforcement in the village is 3k worth of crop consumption. The person who had sent 1k slaves will get 33% of the def points accumulated. Regardless of what kind of a hammer was sent. Regardless of what the def units are more powerful towards, infantry or cavalry. The def points given to a player simply depends on their def's crop consumption.
How it SHOULD work:
In my honest opinion, and many others share this opinion too, the def point system should award points according to how effective one's defense was in killing another hammer. For example if the incoming hammer is a roman one (heavy cavalry based), and the defense consists of phalanxs, spears, and prets equally (in terms of crop consumption) it is obvious that even though the consumption of all units is same since they're equal in numbers, the spearman have done the most damage to the hammer. Since they defend better against cavalry than the rest. So the teuton player who had sent the spears should gain the most points, since his defense killed the most. Yet according to travian, all players get equal amount of def points since the crop consumption was the same for all players def.
Another example can be of slaves and prets.
Everyone knows slaves strength lie in their numbers. Soo..... if a village has 1k slaves and 1k prets, it can be determined that those 1k slaves have a total of 5000 def strength there [ (cavdef+infadef) x number of troops] and the prets have a total of 10000 def strength (cba to do the calc of infa and cav def differently lel). From this it is clearly visible that the def supplied by the egyptian only equals to 33.33% of the total def power there, while the romans has the rest. YET both of the tribes get the equal amount of def points, due to the reason: they consume equal amounts of crop.
(Yes i know both troops have different strength in terms of cav and infa def, but the logic is still right. The amount of def strength and damage done will vary according to what kind of a hammer it was but the Roman will still kill more since in both categories, infantry def and cavalry def, the prets exceed the slaves. And since the amount of troops is the same the romans will kill more.)
I hope i have explained this flaw well, and that you guys can relate to the issue at hand. The def point systems seems like a joke, even though the implementation of it was an excellent thought (been years of defenders not getting credit, and gives incentive to def players to get medals too). It does seem like the travian team opted for the easiest solution to how the def point works and didnt work on how it should be in reality. I can just send a not so high amount of slaves and get the majority of the points (which will happen in the future trust me, highest def points will be going to egyptians, not cause they have the best def troop in the game, simply because they consume the most crop )
Thanks to the TM team for shedding light on the def system for me
Would be nice to have a filter in reports and in Ally Attacks page to sort "attacks" vs "raids". Can be difficult to find attacks when you're spammed by a ton of micro-raid reports. Make this happen please!
firstly, @Templar Knight , if you have any power on this, use it, force it, i kindly ask, because this became frustrating enormously. i opened 50 accounts in a row all 50 banned, also they are filling all inactive finders which makes adding 10 farms to the list 3 hour job, not to mention that map is working when it wants to work and from time to time it just does meh when i want to click sth
so lets have a poll
and please write to TG, this is unplayable, after we tolerated this restart and downtimes, this truly should not ruin the game anymore
For the love of all that is holy, can we please have a "Delete All" button for deleting a massive amount of reports? I got 506 pages of raids at 99 per page.. I delete one page - still 506 pages! All I can think is "Where does this end????"
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Now you can include them Sommefuglen