Bug In The Last OP

  • Capacity limitations..? It's a text based game in 2019. I would hope that is not the case...

    Every click of every player of every server? That is a lot of text. I would not be optimistic but maybe.

    Noel, 8:13 PM

    She breaks my heart, I break their armies

  • Dear COM1 community,


    our technical team looked thoroughly into the log data of the happenings on the COM1 gameworld on July 28th and 29th, 2019. There was in fact an issue related to conquering a capital village and a failed capture of the Unique trainer on Tasmanian Devil account. This was the result of a system error that caused the above mentioned situation.


    Yesterday, our technical specialists evaluated the different options we could put in place to make things right. One of the possibilities evaluated was a rollback of the server. This option was discarded as it would have involved a too high risk for additional negative consequences on the whole gameworld.


    Therefore we analysed other options and we have decided to make an exception for this specific case and take some action directly on the account involved. Here is how we are going to proceed.


    28.07.2019 issues
    The Unique Trainer Artefact is transferred to Tasmanian Devil as he should have been able to conquer it during yesterday attack according to game design.


    29.07.2019 issues
    The village 06.R Ricardo:male_sign:Milos (-15|19), that was affected by conquering despite being the capital at the time of the attack will be restored to the state it had before conquer at around 04:00:00 UTC+1 29.07.2019, including buildings, resource fields, troops, troop upgrades, unlocked troops (in Academy) and connected oases.


    We are deeply sorry for the frustration and inconvenience that the whole situation has created. Our technical specialists are currently taking measures to prevent those situations from happening in the future.


    Your Travian: Legends Team

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    Members of the Travian Team works on a voluntary basis and are therefore not available 24 hours a day.

  • Nice that TG intervened but oh well, it kinda sucks for us now that our OP went after this incident... We would definitely target UT heavily, either real or mass fake. That would dilute the defenses increasing chances of success of the op and potentially help us we could take UT back in that chaos. Alternatively we might not have sent Grim's hammer (as we are very low on trainers now) like that as it could easily turn into a WWr.

    I guess this is about time I stop playing this game.

    Noel, 8:13 PM

    She breaks my heart, I break their armies

  • Nice that TG intervened but oh well, it kinda sucks for us now that our OP went after this incident... We would definitely target UT heavily, either real or mass fake. That would dilute the defenses increasing chances of success of the op and potentially help us we could take UT back in that chaos. Alternatively we might not have sent Grim's hammer (as we are very low on trainers now) like that as it could easily turn into a WWr.

    I guess this is about time I stop playing this game.

    Did you consider defending? Or Straight to deletion?

  • I honeslty didnt think we could have gotten the UT. I was confident for the hammer restoration though and I'm happy to see it.

    Obi-Wan is right, their OP could have been different with UT stolen on sunday.

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    Hope you guess my name
    But what's puzzling you
    Is the nature of my game


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    fnx wrote:

    I have to admit last year Villains played cleaner than us

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  • Thank you Travian Games for making the correct decision and returning the UT that was rightfully ours and restoring our hammer which should not have been successfully chiefed and thereby lost. Due to this being the largest international server other than finals, with the teams having a history of many years playing together and against each other, this was the right call. Keeping the competitive integrity of the server is in everyone's interest so I do not think the enemy team can or has a right to complain about this. I don't think anyone would want to be punished for making the correct decisions/plans and executing those plans perfectly, as there is no point in continuing to play the game in that case.


    Thank you again,

    Team Tasmanian Devil

  • but he should also know that there was a chance for this outcome

    Not really. I am 100% certain that we would make plans differently, should we knew that we are certainly short of a trainer. Different game state actually guarantees that this outcome would never happen, especially in an op where artefact like UT matter a lot. I am not even talking about higher chance of success of the ops, a basic decisions such as not launching particular hammers at all.

    Either way, I don't expect any support here as this forum is heavily Vices dominated nor that I am that optimistic to expect a similar retrieving of our op hammers/vices defenses.

    Noel, 8:13 PM

    She breaks my heart, I break their armies

  • Not really. I am 100% certain that we would make plans differently, should we knew that we are certainly short of a trainer. Different game state actually guarantees that this outcome would never happen, especially in an op where artefact like UT matter a lot. I am not even talking about higher chance of success of the ops, a basic decisions such as not launching particular hammers at all.

    Either way, I don't expect any support here as this forum is heavily Vices dominated nor that I am that optimistic to expect a similar retrieving of our op hammers/vices defenses.

    You splatted your hammers due to the poor execution during your launches, us getting UT now doesn't impact that at all. Your argument that you would have planned differently with UT being ours is also quite weak, perhaps you wouldn't have included the grim (which again, I doubt, since his 5k rams are nowhere near good enough to turn into a WWR). If your argument is that you would have had an additional priority target to fake, you could have faked UA, since that, by the words of your own members is the actual "game-changing" artefact.

    The UA is game changing, Trav should have changed it to x4. UA significantly blunts hammers, even UT built hammers.

    Let's also get it straight that if your team was "fair and just", you would have given the UT on your own, instead of hoping that TG doesn't act and step in while trashtalking us in IGM's.

    A wise man once said:

    I don't see how a roll back could work and could cause more issues to the game, that said tg have been known to gift gold before. Just hope it can be an outcome that all sides are happy with.

  • Not really. I am 100% certain that we would make plans differently, should we knew that we are certainly short of a trainer. Different game state actually guarantees that this outcome would never happen, especially in an op where artefact like UT matter a lot. I am not even talking about higher chance of success of the ops, a basic decisions such as not launching particular hammers at all.

    Either way, I don't expect any support here as this forum is heavily Vices dominated nor that I am that optimistic to expect a similar retrieving of our op hammers/vices defenses.

    I can agree you wouldnt have launched the grim on real probably. But dont forget you didnt have so many time to change, I mean the grim launched on nahoj around 08 and some of his fakes were sent earlier. I wasnt much on last week (holiday) but I gave a look at our d-tool and some of the others reals was already launched at 03.00.00 of sunday, It is hard to think to completely change an OP with many hammers already travelling. But who knows, you probably thought nahoj was a safe target (we never defended him previously).

    Pleased to meet you
    Hope you guess my name
    But what's puzzling you
    Is the nature of my game


    (Symphaty for the Devil, Rolling Stones, ages ago)


    fnx wrote:

    I have to admit last year Villains played cleaner than us

  • I for one agree that the OP could potentially have been executed/ended differently with prior knowledge of how the UT bug would be resolved. I think the fairest solution would have been a rollback to the day after VICES OP, but since a major interventions has already taken place I doubt we will see another. I understand the frustration within TEN-LL-SGR about the resolution and the heavy admin interference that occurred, but I urge you to keep in mind that had the game worked as it should have to begin with, this is the result we would have gotten anyway.


    Peace and love


    an obvious VICES tech

  • Hello everyone,



    During the last 2-3days we have had some strange/weird turnouts in the game...

    The UT OP and then Capital Conquering but in the end it has all been sorted out...


    So would like to thank and send our sincerest gratitude to Travian Support Team for resolving the issue as early as possible (tbh we were thinking that it wud take a while :D) and tolerating our tickets and taking it to the utmost urgency...


    TheGrim thank you for all help you have been during this period and the support by writing up to MH thereby helping us. We have just one word for you Respect


    Lastly Obi-Wan I agree with you , your op could have been better if UT was moved earlier .. Our deepest sympathies to Ten for loosing their hammer



    We feel so blessed to have such a wonderful SupportStaff for the game, Fantabulous Alliance and an Honest Opponent :P


    As the thread has served its purpose MODs can close it



    Warm Regards,


    Team TD

  • Thank you so much for this!


    Is there any chance we could get an exact cause and timeline for a fix?


    And as players is there anything we can do to prevent this from happening in the meantime?

  • You splatted your hammers due to the poor execution during your launches, us getting UT now doesn't impact that at all. Your argument that you would have planned differently with UT being ours is also quite weak, perhaps you wouldn't have included the grim (which again, I doubt, since his 5k rams are nowhere near good enough to turn into a WWR). If your argument is that you would have had an additional priority target to fake, you could have faked UA, since that, by the words of your own members is the actual "game-changing" artefact.

    Well, your leader said in the last round that only Wooky WWk chiefing was important in our last rounds ops, all else was useless so direct that to your own leaders. Losing UT, if you ask me, is obviously a huge blow. I explained what we would do differently and how it does negatively impact our op (even if it is not as big as it did to you), do not let me repeat myself. Then again, like I said before, there is no surprises that I get a dislike from you lot on the forum and hearing all kinds of explanations why the result might be the same while Vices tech account gets kudos by repeating what I have said. It only tells how two-sided your real justice understanding is really when you ask for (and get) support against the bug but not willing to do the same when the negative consequences impact the other side.

    Noel, 8:13 PM

    She breaks my heart, I break their armies

  • Well, your leader said in the last round that only Wooky WWk chiefing was important in our last rounds ops, all else was useless so direct that to your own leaders. Losing UT, if you ask me, is obviously a huge blow. I explained what we would do differently and how it does negatively impact our op (even if it is not as big as it did to you), do not let me repeat myself. Then again, like I said before, there is no surprises that I get a dislike from you lot on the forum and hearing all kinds of explanations why the result might be the same while Vices tech account gets kudos by repeating what I have said. It only tells how two-sided your real justice understanding is really when you ask for (and get) support against the bug but not willing to do the same when the negative consequences impact the other side.

    TG already said a rollback would cause issues. They can only fix the direct outcomes of the bugs. I could also say that I would have 3 more troops queued if I didn't have to send res to TD. They can't repair every action that was made since it happened. We have all made decisions with the information we had at the time knowing that circumstances involving both the UT and TD's village might change.

  • There simply is no possible solution where both teams are completely happy, your frustrations are not due to a bug, but due to the result of your OP, which is understandable. If all your decisions were so centered around UT, it's simply your mistake for thinking you will keep the artefact due to a bug. You could have planned and executed as if you already lost the UT, until the end of TG investigation. TG made the logical, fair and just decision that many people predicted. Your own members claimed UT has no impact on the outcome of the server and it's not a "crucial" artifact, what changed in the last 12hours? i can't see what you're even trying to achieve with the complaining, rollback is not possible, what solution are you seeking?

    And a side note, only person who helped us with the bug reporting and supported us through this was The Grim, while others sent snarky remarks and "AHAHA" messages to our account. I'd support you in the case of a bug, not in a case where you got outsmarted by our DC's and now suddenly you want your hammers back to have another try.

  • TG already said a rollback would cause issues. They can only fix the direct outcomes of the bugs. I could also say that I would have 3 more troops queued if I didn't have to send res to TD. They can't repair every action that was made since it happened. We have all made decisions with the information we had at the time knowing that circumstances involving both the UT and TD's village might change.

    I do not think the impact of you losing 3 troops is the same as risking our potential WWr. Of if you think that it is important for the server going forward, you could ask for reimbursement for the three troops you lost and I would be supportive of it. Then again, you can obviously find excuses not to make this happen, I guess you do not have incentives to do so. As I said, I know that I cannot convince the Vices-based forum community that on the results would be different.

    Alcoholic Duck_COM I mentioned that screenshot or some sort of proof to help you guys out for your case, as I assumed TG might not be able to verify your time of cap change.

    C&A I dont know what to say if you don't understand that the problem behind OP that was executed based on info you have but after it plays out, then the info on hand back then changes due to bug. Ops could be worse or better than this outcome (maybe we would splat everything trying to get UT back out of frustration), but it it would be different. It has nothing to do with the success of our ops. As for the UT, I always said it is a very important artefact. You are once again holding me responsible for things others say. IF rollback after you get UT is indeed impossible, we could still have manual interference to revert the op.

    That being said, I am not too bothered by it. I just think that it would be a happy ending for both sides if this also happened. However, I am glad that you guys got a fix for this relatively fast. It is what was supposed to happen from your side.

    Noel, 8:13 PM

    She breaks my heart, I break their armies

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