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    Even if I have a Travian free summer I’m still curious about how you are doing on the different servers so I asked around to get a little information about how many that have registered and how many that are playing now. The rest of statistics is from Getter except for Arabia that for some reason isn’t on Getter, I have complained..


    It is somewhat surprising info, especially when it comes to Arabia that usually pass over 30K accounts before MH deletes them. Did the bot makers move to International? Maybe.. but if I remember right Int had the same number of max accounts last year.


    Turkey also has much less accounts than last years. The one I talked with had several explanations to that. He said the most important is the issue with leaderships. The players don’t like the past teams and therefore restrain from playing. On Facebook I’ve seen a lot of complains that due to the exchange rate for the turkish lira to euro it have been too expensive to play for many of them.


    I found statistics from 31 July last year for comparison.


    Feel free to add more statistics, analyses and reports from the qualification servers!



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    2018 17.206 accounts 31 July



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    Top20 alliances.


    The big metas we have had for several years have split more and more. New have been formed containing alliances from several nations. The new limits on confederation might force a new strategy for next final. We will see.



    International.



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    https://www.gettertools.com/gr…avian.com/G-Map/250085232



    Arabia



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    No getter - no map



    A. Turkey



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    https://www.gettertools.com/gr…avian.com/G-Map/250119939



    B. Russia



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    https://www.gettertools.com/gr…avian.com/G-Map/123318039



    C. Germany



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    https://www.gettertools.com/gr…ravian.com/G-Map/13279803



    D. France



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    https://www.gettertools.com/gr…ravian.com/G-Map/54329813

    The tournament suppose to gather elite player. A solid good, not elite even account should have 200K defense on 2x with no sweat. 4 alliances is 240 account. half of them defense - here is your 20+m defense. Will WW be zeroed beyond level 20? Sure. If natars win that would mean travian does not have elite anymore ;)

    For several rounds the def in WW have been up to 95KK (Dacia record), plans and artefacts not counted. With the limit of confeds the victory will not be decided at level 20. A more interesting endgame probably. With enough of decent hammers it for sure will be prolonged.

    Last statistics



    There was changes during the night. We ended with 3 Russian WWs in top.


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    The servers biggest hammer was saved to the end.


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    A proof of the meaningless with the rewards - at least we have seen FocusOnMe in action.. The worst is that they get in the Hall of Fame..


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    It's the same with the Top20 lists, not many have earned their spot in the top in a honest way.



    Players:


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    Alliances:


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    Top10 past week and last week


    Players


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    I allowed myself some fun the last days with the gold we got, I hadn't bought gold so I couldn't transfer it any way=)


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    Alliances



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    WW reports



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    Some of the minor WWs especially in the gray zone have changed owner several times, 9h left. We will see if any more changes will appear before end.



    This is how the Union WW looked a couple of hours ago:



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    Defense:


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    Construction plan defense:


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    I have chosen the reports with biggest hammers that might have done damages or show defense. If you miss reports from Union - well there wasn't many and they wasn't big =)


    13 Mars


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    14 Mars


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    15 Mars


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    16 Mars


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    I asked Kira why they changed alliance from BAD to CUP.


    Kira: Only for second BP

    Me: But others from Union attacks CUP?

    Kira: And CUP attack me. It's russian love )

    Me: lol, must be :D



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    17 Mars


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    WW changed owner again...


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    18 Mars most reports this day was Natar reports.


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    Attack on Smurfs plan.


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    19 Mars


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    This ended with the plan lost.


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    20 Mars


    Another attempt to cheif that failed. (Not all reports)


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    Last week

    The endgame that disappeared, that left the players so disappointed that they refused to play for victory - at least if we talk about the most active players in all metas except Union and CUP. That is how we will remember this round.


    The first endgame seemed to be just as exciting you could wish, Union and Uollas was so concentrated on each other that Dacia, IM and CUP could enter the top and Dacia excelled in gathering enough of def to have a fair chance of winning. Not surprising, Dacia have shown in earlier rounds that they have a fitness to have extremely high amounts of defence. From having a bad start with the intermezzo with Turks they finally could be a part to count with in the endgame. Uollas in contraire saw their chances to win melt away with the heavy attacks from Union that kept their WW at zero.


    As we all know a starvation bug was triggered, something that shouldn’t be possible - again. There should be a limit in the game to prevent such things. That the bug still existed was discovered on a Turkish server a couple of weeks before it happen here on Final. It’s easy to blame the players and refer to the rules that it is forbidden to overload the server instead of making sure that such things don’t happen.


    It’s easy to understand the disappointment in the first rollback, the hammers were sent back home instead of hitting when they should have and that changed the outcome of the server to Unions advantage. A wraith spread fast among the players, many said they would delete, leaders encouraged their players to trigger the starvation bug again which made the server impossible to play in a normal way.


    For the first time in history, as far as I know, TG asked leaders to participate in a chat to solve the problem and offered the biggest compensation ever to get the players back ingame. The leaders wanted the server to be closed without a winner but TG said it wasn’t possible due to legal complications with the prizes and decided to do a second rollback. It was also clear that TG don’t understand how fast the winner is decided in Final. They believed it still was possible to take down a WW above level 20 enough to give another WW a chance. They maybe should try to play a Final themselves?


    As it turned out it wasn’t enough to calm the feelings. When the second rollback started only Union was interested to play. 20% of the accounts was deleted but still 5000 left. I believe that TG saw that as a victory but the truth is that it was the most active players that decided to quit and it is unsure if they return to play the Tournament ever again. Many have been angry about what they see as unfair bans and this was the final reason to skip this game that so many of us are addicted to. With the loss of leaders this implies it will make a great impact on next Tournaments.


    I don’t think TG will take the threat of deleting serious again if you don’t manage to get more players to follow.


    Dacia, IM and Uollas refused to build on their primary WWs, several WW holders deleted. The ones that hesitating started to build never had a chance to be real opponents in endgame. The only except Union that will be happy is CUP that now will end as second which they due to least def of the metas never would have accomplished if the endgame continued as usual.


    A change on the rewards are also needed in the future. Most of the prizes for attacker and defender goes to players that don’t deserve them. Instead of using their troops for the best of their alliances they only used them for egoistic reasons - server after server. The rewards have lost their meanings. That behavior have increased during the last rollback when the players have no motivation to participate in the endgame any longer.


    The server will end 8:52 thursday morning with Unions victory, maybe it is as it should be. They have won every second Final in the recent years so you can say it was their turn.


    I guess some of you will say that I haven’t been harsh enough about misbehavior or TG’s acting in this post either but isn’t there a contrast to not being allowed to have my own opinion and that I should write particular about things I don’t like?


    I’m the nice one, remember? At least I try to ;)


    And thanks to all that have helped me with information and reports this round!

    Something I think is interesting is the connection between active players and online


    Active players: 4368
    Players online: 394


    It's less than 10%...


    I can only compare with two other servers for the moment: Anglosphere has 20% online and Kingdoms test 30%.


    During my engagement in several communities I have noticed that the amount of active members always is around 20%. It doesn't matter what it is about. And I have several times noticed that it is the same in Travian.


    So less than 10% says a lot about how much interest the remaining players have in the Final.

    Endgame reports



    I had nearly 300 reports, I have chosen some for each day.


    6 Mars


    Plans activated late and CUP got the first hit.


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    7 Mars

    Some of the WWs have changed owner several times..


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    CUP has been a popular target.


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    Triamera got banned due to problems with the gold and fell out from the WW race.


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    The first days Union had fewer attacks than I expected.



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    8 Mars


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    Even WWs that wasn't building got visitors in a try to chief.



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    Changing owner


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    orion was zeroed several times.


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    Today Union got hit by several WWKs


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    9 Mars

    It seems as the NAP between Union and CUP don't exist any more.


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    More attacks on orion


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    Smurfs decided to start to build and got the plan from Dacia.


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    Hype started to build, maybe to distract the enemy by giving them 2 targets.


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    Many deleted after sending their hammers.


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    The defense in an abandoned WW


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    10 Mars

    I suppose CUP was seen as the only real opponent..


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    Kira also decided to start to build.


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    Union was back on top on Sunday evening. I should have taken more screens to show how the ranks changed but after all turbulence I wasn't in mood to write ..


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    11 Mars

    Union had good help from other metas to keep CUP down.


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    and Hype fall down from second rank.


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    Many catas but I'm not sure any damage was done.


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    12 Mars

    orion zeroed again.


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    Smurfs too

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    An offensive with several attacks and a failed attempt to chief.


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    Triamera unbanned but not building.

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    Endgame 12 Mars


    Due to the problems we have had on the server I haven't write anything for a while but it's maybe time to do it now before the server ends.

    I have been told that I'm not allowed to have an opinion, I shall only report.


    -Oh? So I'm not allowed to have an opinion if it's not the same as yours?


    I understand if you are angry about how the endgame turned out and you have voiced loudly in other threads that all should delete, but it is a lot of players that never write on the forum and due to the amount still playing I was right when I said that the majority would continue to play.


    I'm accused of having sided with TG. Well.. TG is not so overly pleased with me for the moment either :P


    But my feelings aside let's take a look on what happen after the second rollback.


    Until now 1000 players have deleted as a protest that the starving bugs still exist. My last saved statistics is from 6 february and accounts have been deleted before the rollback from 22 february.


    CUP have lost 80 players, 840 still playing.

    Uollas: 430, 863

    Union: 1, 1071

    Dacia: 319, 538

    Immortals: 300, 647


    I don't claim that my numbers are exactly right but should give a picture about it.




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    How have this affected the endgame?


    At the first rollback the players was angry because the hammers running was back to home and that gave UNION the victory.


    In the second rollback 3 metas decided to not play and with that gave walkover to UNION - so they will have the victory......


    UNION's lead is too big for any other to catch up.

    CUP that was the meta with less def is still on the go.

    Dacia's WW holder deleted but SMURFS wanted to build a WW for fun. Rumor says that UOLLAS wanted their WW holders to delete to but REVENGE is still there but not building, COF deleted. SPQR decided to build instead.

    Immortals, I'm told the account is on delete.

    Neither of the WWs that replace the original primary WWs had enough of support to be a real opponent to UNION and have been zeroed several times. Most hammers with a bigger amount of catas have walked now.


    And what are they doing the ones that refused to play endgame? They try to exceed each other about def and attack points to get a tablet...

    I have an opinion about that too but I have voiced that earlier so no more about that except that I'm happy if the most notorious players don't get it - again.


    Union will probably reach level 100 at 20 or 21 Mars.


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    How you get such information Safiren ? Can you link source pls? As far as i see you are not a member of TG.

    I'm in the leaders chat with TG. I helped to start that chat and was allowed to stay to be able to report from it.

    Will I be able to use this link with Gold on Elimination or Final server 2019?

    You will be able to use it on qualification. They are working on a solution for next Final.