and the answer is ... ?
The answer was given by Safiren just couple posts above... Can copy it for you one more time though...
You will be able to use it on qualification. They are working on a solution for next Final.
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How you get such information Safiren ? Can you link source pls? As far as i see you are not a member of TG.
The question was asked in the still existing chat with TG management and Saf gave the answer we got.
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Show All1. less deff in ww than expected ( AGAIN )
2. ww hammers we sent on russia ww disappeared
3. ww hammers we had at home lost horses and now are infantry+catapults
4. fakes in ww started again
5. some people have less golds, and travian plus not activated anymore
for now 5 issues, the 6 issues is
6. Travian Games
ah, another thing, to every player of this finals, the stupid people , are us, not travian games
remember my words, a group of people who lived by problems in game for years and years, and still give money to them
we are the first stupid
2. same
3. they're just missing for us, entirely
5. some have 0 gold, some got double... and the same with plus
the last 7 point - same
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If i remember correctly last year the where 2 bugs, one on the Dacia WW when we have starvation with full granary and we prove it with screen shots but, whats even more interesting is that the bug that occur few days ago on the UOLLAS WW happened also last year on the SAME NE World wonder ( 100 100 ) acting identically like this this year. So i believe that if they will bring a backup and rollback the server this issue is not yet fixed and it can occur again.
Ameno : Can we have an official statement regarding bug issue fixed ?If i remember correctly, the Dacia's WW was at -100/100, where it is now. And the bug happened not only there, but also in the Polish WW placed at the 0/-100.
So, I seriously doubt the consumption bug is related to any specific coordinates.
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Show AllDear Ciccio, I have some bad news for you.
I investigated a little, and my feeling was right, the rollback was done by the Russians intentionally.
I have inside confirmation that they knew about the bug and they decided to use it because of you.
They hoped you would hit the Dacia with some of your WWKs, and take Dacia WW under the Russian WW, but you didn't hit Dacia, you hit their WW.
When they saw that Dacia WW lvl is too high to do significant damage, the Russians decided to use the bug and to cause the rollback, and rethink their endgame strategy.
They also knew that we will turn against each other, Dacia and Uollas, because it was clear for them that you will ask for a rollback, and Dacia will be against the rollback.
I realized now we, Uollas and Dacia, were just puppets in the hands of the Russian Master Puppeteer.
Think about it: isn't it strange that we do not have to many comments from the Russians?
It looks to me that they are sitting back and just enjoying the show, and laughing at us, while we are fighting each other.
I just want to kindly ask you to think which is the answer to some simple questions:
1. Who provoked the bug?
2. What chances had the Russians to win the final before the rollback?
3. Who has the most to win if you change your endgame strategy?
I feel bad for doing their game, and this will be my last post on the subject.
A very cheap attempt to bring back the clash of the leading teams.
However, both of them have already seen what happens if they only catapult each other... Some other teams which were underdogs (and it's not an account name in this case) for entire server take the lead... Guess it was a good lesson for all -
Because you are my friend!
Ok, now i see why we got all top WWKs from uollas, that was your passion miamor!
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Reports?
You better have something to show, considering you kept me up all night long...
I talked to promter, she gave me these reports.... but tsss, don't show to francesco, it's top secret
(btw... i have no clue how to paste the reports as links
ancient noob here...)so, the results….
1. We lost one wwk of Raln
His size was 48к imps, 32к ECs 12k cats
https://finals.travian.com/berichte.php?id=50620309|1893bebe
https://finals.travian.com/berichte.php?id=50620479|3556268b
https://finals.travian.com/berichte.php?id=50620599|0d63ef2c
https://finals.travian.com/berichte.php?id=50620696|d834f1d7
https://finals.travian.com/berichte.php?id=50620982|d2c54ac8
https://finals.travian.com/berichte.php?id=50621533|fc7928cc
https://finals.travian.com/berichte.php?id=50622346|424e5408
2. We lost the working hammer of Ken-vrn which was rebuilding after being splat yet again in one of the local ops.
His size yesterday:
https://finals.travian.com/ber…620212%7Ce6f713c6&t=2&s=1
https://finals.travian.com/ber…621461%7C6896f97a&t=2&s=1
https://finals.travian.com/ber…621902%7C79c5ea37&t=2&s=1
(there was a bunch of sniped waves, not included)
3. We walled the train on working hammer of Ineyes
https://finals.travian.com/ber…619882%7C9192ee10&t=2&s=1
https://finals.travian.com/ber…623280%7Cb7b798f6&t=2&s=1
https://finals.travian.com/ber…623901%7C987c166e&t=2&s=1
https://finals.travian.com/ber…624724%7C6cba0a1d&t=2&s=1
https://finals.travian.com/ber…625188%7C4d223025&t=2&s=1
https://finals.travian.com/ber…625376%7Ce650996a&t=2&s=1
https://finals.travian.com/ber…625831%7C091e8ade&t=2&s=1
(waves aren't included)
Hi ciccio!
Promter is my love, be careful of yourself...
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Any polish or russian want to host me in March?
I'm open to negotiation
No
Oh hey system! Remembered you by incident recently
Rino, let him come to berlin
I can host him -
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That's a good way
ME TOO!!!!
Ameno Templar Knight I need the key for the final.
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we decided to say that we will play in +/+ but we will go in -/-
tssss delete it fast! i'll tell to noone!
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italians go in sw.
Yeeeeey i knew you wouldn't leave me there alone
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I don't have any problems. I see desperate bolsheviks to win this finals and make pacts with everyone :)))
Ehmmm did you just describe Dacia last year?
No offense to Emerik....But yes, what's your problem now?
Atm we have two largest zergs spawning in the SE and NE. Why don't you troll them?
My original question to you was about baltics and germans... who are coming with Italians in the NE. Where is your moking about it?
And If you got some problems with russians as nation, well, this is not for this forum either....
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What is not true of what I wrote?
Troja, Scandinavians, Baltics?....The rest was always playing with ru team except Ghetto.
The world of travian might be small... but as it appears it is also full of false rumors. -
No one says here that russians make diplomatic ties with a lot of players/alliances like ghetto, troja, bulgarians from cerber bg, scandinavians, and now they are trying with baltics and others. And do not forget, there is no ru team, there is urss team.
Hm? How did it happen that you know more about russian diplomacy than I do? -
And I'm surprised that leaders of the alliances dare to complain about it, without writing any possible solutions, rather than trying to keep their users active and motivated...I think the solution was written several times in this very thread even: increase number of confederacies for the large servers and all will be fine.
However, I do understand that the original complaint was coming from a player within an endgame and such sudden bug fix (after 5 years of its reporting as I've heard) was sort of unintentional "backstabbing" on TG behalf.
I guess the only solution for that case would be a better communication from TG, which was referred and discussed multiple times. Yet again, what do we have here? A post factum post about crucial game changes and 0 comments on our complains.... Communication is getting better and better... I see...
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If it is a feature, can you please find it in travian answers? Otherwise it's a bug and you are just complaining that you cannot exploit this bug anymore. A lot of people didn't know that and was under disadvantage because of that.
Well, unfortunately, travian answers don't include all the information. In fact, they miss some crucial one. For example, what we encountered just now on the past TT server.
This is what's written in travian answers:
Yet, it is impossible to que 2 ww lvls if your account doesn't have Plus activated. Meaning, gold does impact ww village but exclusively WW itself. However, it's not specified in the travian answers... Is that a bug that we can't que 2 ww lvls without a plus?
If they can have overpowerd TS/TO on ptp servers (because the gameplay need it), then they can change on finals and allow more conf (because there is more players/allys than normal servers) Right?
Right. That's what was discussed in München. To make a confederacy number depending on the server size. If it's 2k registration - have it limited to 3 as it is now. If it goes up to 10-12k as the finals normally do, make it more, 6, 7, dunno... It was discussed in regards to a different issue. Yet I think it's a high time to remember the possibility of this change now, when the finals are close. -
my awesome region!!! Thanks to polish and italian team for making our winter fun 
but yeah, didn't notice turks there....Although.... have to say couple words in support of the turkish team. During the qualification .com turks were very active and we had a lot of nice fights. However, most of the attention was drawn to Dacia-Hellas fights. I found it pretty unfair afterwards, when everyone considered the turks as a bad team, because they didn't show any wwks after having 2-3 trainers... It was unfair towards our team as well, since we were the reason why the turks had no wwks for the end game.
But ppl tend to think if they don't see the fights, the fights don't happen. And hell with the ally ranks which show clearly where the action really take place.
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I guess you just don't understand what I'm saying or i'm saying it not clearly enough.
I propose to removed all "fake" points from everyone. Not just the fake points from some players. But it's already said quite rightly that it's an utopy and noone is going to do it. -
Well TG should take out fake points from all then.
Is it somehow different from what I just wrote?And yes, jofke is right, noone is going to do it. They ignored our request during the server why should they bother now?
That is frustrating especially for those who does spend much time for this game. They feel unfairly treated in many ways. And to present awards to 100% boosters is just one of those ways.
