Yeah, the master builder is one thing, but raids and attacks?
Then it will be like a bot. And a lot of resources can be brought in by that.
It contradicts your opening statement.
The wave builder is a nice idea though. It eliminates the difference between new and experienced players, when it comes to same second attacks.
Posts by Sir lancelot
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I don't think the price of gold should go up. That will only make the gap even more extreme. The benefits of gold should be less large. Or: there should also be other ways to obtain the same benefits and it should absolutely not increase every aspect of the game.
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The fact that it promotes gold usage even more than the normal game rules.
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You make me sad, good sir knight.
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Hello everybody,
I am writing this message for Travian Games. I hope that a community manager picks up on it. The thing is that we see attempts by TG to create something that is both profitable and attracts/keeps more players online. For example the new taskmaster system. I actually think that this is a complete disaster. Simply due to the gap between gold users benefits and non gold users. I think that the approach is wrong. The rules are great. It doesn't need fixing.
The biggest increase in activity, player number and fun I ever saw was with the addition of the Egyptian and Hun tribes and the introduction of the European map. Continuing down this line, there can be many great ideas. I came up with this one the other day:
Map of North (or north and south america); civilizations for example Sioux, Cherokee, Navaho, Apache, Aztec, Maya, or Eskimo. And instead of Natar Gun toting settlers! It'll be a hoot. Everyone will love it, I am certain. Everyone will want to check out the new tribes and new map. And you can do the same thing for Feudal Japan, the warring state period in China, Great Britain, any area in the world, actually! You all already have birthday servers and such, wy not keep the successful ones and try a new map/new tribes each year.
Ofcourse you can keep traditional travian, but then at least allow the 5 tribes option. I would also keep the codex setup. That is tons of fun!
But seriously, different maps and different tribes will keep players interested and make players that stopped want to come back to take a look, no doubt about it.
You culd even add more tribes to the normal setup. Vikings maybe, or Byzantines, Turks, Berbers. There are so many ideas.
I hope that this will help out a bit.
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3rd bullet is the tribe specific buildings.
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That would be nice Ridder Huma . Also: I saw that the tribe specific buildings will be included. Will it be trapper, HDT and brewery? Or something created from that contest a while back?
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Thanks Andreas.
I have seen tables in the past, showing which rule would be on and which would be off. Will it be the 3 traditional tribes? Or will it include the 2 new tribes?
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Thanks Achtung . Is there a place where I can see the rules applied? Like hero health full at level up, new task master system, oases animals respawn during BP, etc?
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Hello everyone,
I am looking for the facts of which rules will apply to the upcoming anglosphere 2 server, starting on jan 19th?
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Hello Travian,
The above number is a ticket number that was answered competently by Ashwin. However, it brings to bear that maybe, when gathering in an alliance member's village during a truce, this should not be added to the table of trade balance between the accounts. There is, after all, no crop to be eaten. And, it was the case that we (the larger account) wanted to obtain some food during a defcall from our deffer (the smaller account), to feed his own troops.
My 2 cents.
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B+C=D+A
A+B+C+D=20
Therefrom follows
B+C=D+A=10
B*7=C+D <20 <===>
Therefore B= 1 or 2
A=B*B
Therefore, A=1 or 4
So, either
A=1, B=1 and C= 9 and D=9
Or
A=4, B=2, C=8 and D=6
Given that C+d = B*7, then C+D is either 7, or 14.
So, the answer must be that B is 2, which leads to the below final answer.
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Same here, but I think something else should have been changed. This factually doesn't change the effect it has in the sense of making it easier for high gold users. It only makes it less extreme. That is why I suggested something above. That will work far better to level that difference.
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Yes IMDubzs, it does, although you conclusions will remain the same mostly.
That contest of settling within 48 hours is fun, but I think that the main thing is that the rewards should not be given for each village. Village 1 and 2 (I would say a cropper), yes. And then a few bonusses for account wide achievements that will lower the difference between using gold and not using gold. Such as free gold, free goldclub, free res bonus or plus for a week. Stuff like that.
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The least you could do Teabag, is answer polite in game messages!|
And, right now, I am doubting that you have such an insight.
Likely due to a small number of troops on your account.
And no, the troop pop ratio is not inverted at all. What did change, is the fact that high gold users will have their villages simmed way faster and can produce troops earlier on. So, the benefit of high gold usage has been increased. Nothing more, nothing less. I actually sincerely doubt that your 9/10 account group can give a representative image. I think the best indicator is the general tab information in statistics. Possibly the top 10 farmers list, although I have been able to outfarm huuuuge armies, just by having a better understanding of it.
Nice to speak with you Teabag, but again: I doubt your experience. Perhaps I have just been here longer. Regardless, your conclusions are based on numbers that indicate something else. Please consider what I rote. -
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I was actually being civil. I am just pointing out that the number Wychor is using don't actually prove what he is saying. Everyone knows that. Just he doesn't. Which is why I question Wychor's experience.
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Have you actually played this game before?
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Only apply to the capital. You shouldn't punish people who don't go for a cropper.
Why do you present your opinion as fact? You THINK it makes everyone a "simmer" but just because a lot of players are becoming really big really fast doesn't mean they are "simmers".
Some of the top players in terms of pop are also the top in terms of fighting power.
They didn't just get there by simming, they raided a lot to earn back the investment on their troops.
The server is not even 3 weeks old yet and we're already seeing pretty serious cata hits here and there.
This system is especially nice for deffers. Getting multiple villages going so soon enables fast troop production to respond to sudden demands.
This system is absolute HELL for those who don't use gold.
Ofc it all needs to be down scaled but you're clearly just being salty. Maybe your preferred playstyle is suddenly not as good anymore. In that case, stay away from the PTR cause its always gonna be crazy unbalanced.
If you say the 2nd task master tasks should apply for the cap, it is still village 1. So, that can't be. I think it should be a cropper, simply because without a cropper, large troop numbers can't be supported. Players should be led to choosing for options that work.
Also: Some large players become large due to troops. But the early simmers are absolutely not training troops. With this taskmaster system, there is no reward for training troops. But huuuuge rewards for buildings and res fields. We see 6 village players with hardly a soldier in them. The reason why I am being 'salty' is because this way, the game dies. And I absolutely will stop playing if it remains as is. I will also stop if the taskmaster system remains for every village.
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2. What does the new system do well?
Because of the above stated reason this system has a massive influence on the early game part of the game. It may feel weird but the higher hero level actually helps to adress the influence of accounts dumping 500-1000€ on the first server week to buy gladiator helmet, ointments, cages and books to level their hero and assist with early farming. Those playstyles will now have a lesser influence and would be possible without the high gold usage since the hero is so much stronger.
4. How can we fix/improve the system?
a. Remove the tasks in every village and instead improve the general tasks.
b. Introduce new tasks for integrate parts of the game (Building troops, Making trade routes, Having X Amount of villages etc.) in the general tasks. Here long term tasks are needed too (for example having 10k troops in one village or make a full maxed out great party).
c. Tune down Hero Experience and hero level scaling but don't remove it (probably around 50% - 60% from my feeling, Hero should maybe reach lvl 10 and not much more).
d. Look over every task and improve them logiacally (residence, bakery etc.).
e. Tune down Ressource rewards and maybe disable parties within the first 4 days of the Server (trust me this hurts me the most I am a early party guy
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f. Implement Quests that give about 100-150g reward and +25% production and Plus within beginners protection. This is for players that normaly would not buy any gold and to lessen the gap at the start. Also great opportunity to introduce gold to the game.
I agree on all accounts.
For clarity:
The taskmaster rewards should only apply to Spawn and the 1st CROPPER. Besides that, account wide goals should be rewarded. For all other villages, the taskmaster system should be removed. I also agree with rewards in the sense of gold, or free 25% resource bonus and plus account. Or even the gold club (for example after achieving 10 villages).
The rewards should also be tuned down.
Well written IMDubz.